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MrSurly
03-15-2011, 01:36 AM
If I was renting I would be riding,
:badmood:
but no.
The time has come to have to finally deal with the settling issues.
The poor old house is 'cattywampus'...:whistling:

And that ain't good.

My last few weekends have been under here.
A little at a time.
I did finally get myself a laser :woohoo:

I discovered where some mice had lived
and where the termites used to hold their mess hall.

The old place is now almost entirely level but for the bug damaged sill that I have to replace next.

I blew out three sheets of drywall in finished rooms.
The leveling is to prep for the new roof...
And there's the french door replacement project.
Discovered a very small sewer leak that will no doubt require a massive piping overhaul to fix.


Oh, yeah.

I found the hammer.

Backroad Mike
03-15-2011, 02:26 AM
Fun times in Longview. Good luck Ricky.

At least you have enough space to work in without crawling. :whistling:

mongoose
03-15-2011, 07:16 AM
Yeah, that's exceptionally deep for a crawl space. Maybe you could hire midgets or something.

Ancient Iron
03-15-2011, 10:00 AM
I've taken part in a few of those rodeos Ricky. It's worth the trouble when your done and square and plumb and right with the world.

Jackwagon
03-15-2011, 02:26 PM
Yep, those are always fun projects. But definaltely worth it when you're done.

Goldwang
03-15-2011, 02:43 PM
http://www.doofclenas.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38919&stc=1&d=1300170193
In this first picture I thought that was a beer bottle behind you. (Shows where my mind is)...it wasnt until a couple of pic's later that I realized it was a jack! :doh:

Dinero
03-15-2011, 03:34 PM
I prefer Jack to beer.

Backroad Mike
03-15-2011, 05:46 PM
http://www.doofclenas.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=38919&stc=1&d=1300170193
In this first picture I thought that was a beer bottle behind you. (Shows where my mind is)...it wasnt until a couple of pic's later that I realized it was a jack! :doh:

:doh: :roflback::roflback:

DaSkip
03-15-2011, 07:24 PM
Ricky, I have always been taught that masonary is not structural. Are there concrete piers that support your house?

vafatboy
03-15-2011, 07:31 PM
Ricky, I have always been taught that masonary is not structural. Are there concrete piers that support your house?

Masonry can be structural. I've built multi story buildings with it. :whistling:

Dippsy
03-15-2011, 07:38 PM
I like pie

DaSkip
03-15-2011, 07:38 PM
Masonry can be structural. I've built multi story buildings with it. :whistling:

I've always been told that brick is a facade, it's not structural.

I beg to differ.

vafatboy
03-15-2011, 08:10 PM
I've always been told that brick is a facade, it's not structural.

I beg to differ.

I have worked on older buildings with many stories that have multiple brick widths starting at the footer and decreasing in width through the upper stories. This is a common masonry construction method used until the advent of cinder block (now concrete block).

I would agree that a single width of brick might not be good support, but that would depend on the height. The higher you go the more the load above will impose deflection on the wall.

You have to look at all the details to determine structural integrity, like my parents house built on a stone foundation without a footer. The stones were laid in a width at the bottom that spread the load on the bearing soil.

route66paul
03-15-2011, 10:59 PM
Yeah, that's exceptionally deep for a crawl space. Maybe you could hire midgets or something.

They might need wallboarders stilts.

MrSurly
03-15-2011, 11:36 PM
Yeah, this masonry (the piers) are structural. The wall you see is partly aesthetic and partly structural. I have no idea why, but they built it as a chainwall around three sides with integrated piers; in the front, where the brick forms a wainscot veneer outside the wall, the piers are not attached to the wall. It's weird but then this was one of those cheap, fast tract houses. I'm convinced it was built by a crew of twenty at a dead run, over a keg a bet and a night.
The way this house was built was not code even back then.

Skip, the non-structural masonry that is most common is the typical "brick house"...probably 99% of them you see are actually stick-built with a single layer brick veneer. This is nothing but a modern way to cheaply get the appearance of real structural masonry.
Structural brick buildings predate this new puffery by many centuries.
(it started with a little colouseum in Italy)

MrSurly
03-15-2011, 11:39 PM
They might need wallboarders stilts.

The property is sloped; one of the pics is the deep end, another is the shallow end. I can only barely squeeze my fat butt into the shallow end(!)

Backroad Mike
03-16-2011, 04:09 AM
The property is sloped; one of the pics is the deep end, another is the shallow end. I can only barely squeeze my fat butt into the shallow end(!)

If it's sloped, can't be much more than 2-3 percent. Maybe they just didn't dig the crawl space level. :whistling: