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Old 11-23-2012, 12:08 PM
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educate me...

I know that's a tall order...but I'm serious.

I know the FXR has a cult like following with many claiming that it was the last REAL Harley. I've also heard "it's not a Dyna" even though to my uneducated eyes it's got the same rear suspension as a Dyna so it looks like it should fall in the Dyna family.

So fill me in. Learn me a thing or 2 about an FXR. Please?
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It's all in the frame. FXR and FLT shared a service manual. Google up some pictures of Dyna frames vs FXR frames.

Eric Buell designed the FXR fame. It's light, rigid, and has a massive backbone. It's generally considered to be the best handling frame Moco ever built. The easy way to spot one is to look at the area directly below the seat, on either side. There is a triangle in the frame, about 12" square.

They were discontinued, for the Dyna frame, because they were expensive to build.

'Purists' didn't like them because they thought the frame looked Japanese. My brother was one of those guys. He changed his mind when he found out they were the preferred Harley of MCs. He was in hog heaven when he found out Sonny Barger rode one. I think riding mine helped a little. He rides an FLH but emails me FXR pictures daily.

I've been an FXR guy since 1982. The one in my avatar is a '93. There is a large bunch of FXR guys, and a ton of info, over at that VTF place.

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Probably the best lookin' FXR I have ever seen.
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That's a twin cam softail, not an FXR.

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Funny, they had it listed as FXR. Shows you how much I know about the different models.
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Frame is a dead give away. Lemme see if I can find an FXR frame pic...brb.



Note the triangular frame brace as mentioned above.

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The FXR has a non-American style triangulated frame, which is much more rigid than other dynas, and probably one of the reasons it handles better too. It's very obvious if you look at a photo of an FXR; you can see the triangulation around the side panel..

Looks like this (although this is aftermarket from Chopper Guys at Axiom)

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Frame is a dead give away. Lemme see if I can find an FXR frame pic...brb.



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The FXR has a non-American style triangulated frame, which is much more rigid than other dynas, and probably one of the reasons it handles better too. It's very obvious if you look at a photo of an FXR; you can see the triangulation around the side panel..

Looks like this (although this is aftermarket from Chopper Guys at Axiom)

Look how wimpy and clumsy the neck and backbone look by comparison.

And, sorry, but it's not more rigid than other Dynas. It's more rigid than Dynas. It is not a dyna. Two different animals.

Some aftermarket frame makers call their frame 'FXR' or 'FXR style' only because they're rubber mounts; no triangle for miles around.

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With a stock evo motor, I kept up with Russ and Vader on Pine Mountain, which should tell you something about the frame and in my case (sport model) brakes.

The frame is basically the same geometry as the baggers but a little lighter and with a different neck. While Erik Buell didn't design the frame from scratch, he did a lot of the chassis development on a race track. Basically, he would take it out on the track and ride it until he turned the frame into a pretzel. He then kept beefing it up until he couldn't get it to twist anymore and that's what you see on the production models.

When the Dyna came out still using the evo motor and drivetrain, the primaries were breaking because of the additional flex of the Dyna frame. The Twincam is stiffer and holds up better there.

The model to look for is either the Sport or Convertible. Both sit about an inch higher than stock for better cornering clearance, have a little more rake for stability and dual front disks for better stopping. The Convertible has a squishier seat, other than that, they're pretty much the same.

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With a stock evo motor, I kept up with Russ and Vader on Pine Mountain, which should tell you something about the frame and in my case (sport model) brakes.

The frame is basically the same geometry as the baggers but a little lighter and with a different neck. While Erik Buell didn't design the frame from scratch, he did a lot of the chassis development on a race track. Basically, he would take it out on the track and ride it until he turned the frame into a pretzel. He then kept beefing it up until he couldn't get it to twist anymore and that's what you see on the production models.

When the Dyna came out still using the evo motor and drivetrain, the primaries were breaking because of the additional flex of the Dyna frame. The Twincam is stiffer and holds up better there.

The model to look for is either the Sport or Convertible. Both sit about an inch higher than stock for better cornering clearance, have a little more rake for stability and dual front disks for better stopping. The Convertible has a squishier seat, other than that, they're pretty much the same.

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