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What josh say's is gold. I was able to put the S&S gear drive in mine. I don't worry anymore.
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....haven't looked into it that far yet but I provided a link to Herko (John)...give him a call...he's a stand up guy & from what I understand his kits are very reasonable. They are raved about on Harley Tech Talk as well as his other services.
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I like the fact that the SE plate would allow me to retain the investment in the 37B cams I already bought. I agree that the chains were guilty of wearing the old tensioners, but a lot of that has to do with the constant and very heavy tension on them. The oil-fed hydro tensioners should not be anywhere near as hard on the tensioner shoe material.
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Your reasoning seems solid. In your case I might go for it. I still encourage you to call John just for the hell of it. I "met" him on Harley Tech Talk and a friend of mine has done business with him. I spoke with him about a tuning question I had relating to my TTS MASTERTUNE and he was helpful.
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I love this place. There's a lot of good info here, I'll have to do some more research. The Andrews setup sounds logical but man, thats a long laundry list of HD parts required, plus the special cams...I don't know, sounds pricey. More research of course. The new (later) shoes are made of better material, eh? Does anyone offer direct replacements for the originals that are made of the better material? Do any of the hydraulic setups NOT require new cams & oil pump? I HAVE decided one thing thanks to the above info...I'm NOT going to just let it ride; I will at the very least replace the tensioners with new OEM. Keep it coming!
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I looked when I was preparing to do mine and could not find anything. I have noticed HD keeps upping the price on them though, so maybe someone will eventually put something on the market.
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Andrews sells complete conversion cam kits, so you don't have to run to the dealer with the shopping list..
1999-2001: P/N 288999 2002-2006: P/N 288902 This does not include the cams. Here's the updated Andrews conversion .pdf.... <clicky> I'm mulling the hydraulic thing as well. Gonna go talk to an engine guy tomorrow regarding the pros and cons of gears vs. hydraulic. One more thing: here's an magazine article describing the conversion.. <clicky here>
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So far, it looks like there are essentially two ways to go; either spend 200 bux to remain all stock with fresh junk tensioners... OR, spend 850+ to convert to either hydraulic & cams or gears & cams. Maybe theres a middle ground? You know, upgraded tensioners keep the old cams or similar. Still hoping.
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Ricky,
The SE upgrade including the spacer would be about $360 and change shipped from Jenni. While it does use the original chains on the 01 I think it's a good upgrade. Uses the better material shoes and I think its very reasonable that removing the pressure on the tensioners when you stop will go a long way toward eliminating the problem. Still just a guess though. I just did it on my RK if it's any consolation.
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The 07 & up stock plate & hydralic tensioner set-up is a good upgrade. I heard many builders say it is just fine, and is much cheaper than the S.E. plate. You still need the conversion cams.
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You can save yourself pulling the top end by cutting the old push rods with bolt cutters and replacing them with quick installs. Your call on whether it's worth it. SE tapered and S&S are the local favorites.
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