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Old 05-28-2007, 06:53 AM
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95" - Build and tune done by Doc's buddy Brian at Zepka HD in Johnstown PA.
Andrews 26G
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Not the biggest or baddest on the street, but the thing runs strong and in the RPM range that I normally ride. No pinging or hot start issues on this low compression build. I've contemplated having the heads done, but probably won't at this point due to the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" rule. I normally get between 35 to 42 MPG depending on my right hand.
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You probably wouldn't see any difference unless you went to 37's at the same time. This assumes during the build they checked and evened out the combustion chamber sizes.
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Thanks. That's what I was thinking too. End up spending a decent chunk of change for the heads and have minimal gains to show for it. As is, I'm a happy camper, but you know how it is with performance upgrades. Once you start, does it ever really end?

If anyone else here is running a 95", 26G build with head work, I'd really like to see your chart.
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Thanks. That's what I was thinking too. End up spending a decent chunk of change for the heads and have minimal gains to show for it. As is, I'm a happy camper, but you know how it is with performance upgrades. Once you start, does it ever really end?

If anyone else here is running a 95", 26G build with head work, I'd really like to see your chart.
I am no longer running this build. Now a 98" 615/585. But it was very strong.

http://www.v-twinforum.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=80978
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I am no longer running this build. Now a 98" 615/585. But it was very strong.

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Thanks. Pretty much what Terry told me.
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Do you have a chart on the new build? I've only seen boogerbe's dyno sheet with that build.
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Do you have a chart on the new build? I've only seen boogerbe's dyno sheet with that build.
Not yet. I am scheduled for the dyno Friday (R&R Cycle). I am hoping they can do it as promised. I understand they have a backlog due to the upcoming Laconia Bike Week.

As soon as I have it, I'll post it......Promise.
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What's in that thing?
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timken conversion
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have since went to standard baffle and reinstalled cams straight up haven had final tune yet but it seems stronger
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It pulled 2500 - 6000 rpm in 3.84 seconds in 4th gear with lower peak numbers
although on that run it was 3.94
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98" dyno

Well, here it is. What used to be a 95" 26g build, became a 98" 615/585 build this winter. I got my break-in done and let R&R have at it. I am a bit disappointed. I was figuring I would be about 110/110 with this combo. I am not real satisfied with the tune either. I think there is still some to be had. The dyno guy told me the stock tb is probably holding me back. Plus I get some pinging with 93 octane.

99.7 hp, 104.1 tq

It is fun to ride
All comments, positive and negative, are welcomed.

Build consists of:
2004 FLHRCI
98" Revolution cylinders
CP 10.5 pistons
615/585 cam
heads originally hand ported and valved by GMR for 26g (I think this is my bottleneck), now revalved (1.94/1.625) and decked by R&R for 615/585 cam
81.4 cc chambers
HydroRev 1.675 roller rockers
HydroRev lifters
-.060" SE perfect fit pushrods
.000" deck height
.030" Cometic HG
10.99 calculated cr
205 calculated ccp
RB Racing LSR "Black Hole" 2-1
SE air cleaner
Stock TB, manifold and injectors
3.37 primary gearing
SE clutch spring on stock clutch w/06' ramps
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I wish I could help you.
It looks like it's running out of air up high. Seems like intake or pipes, but not sure how to tell. It's running out of juice way too early though.

205CCP seems too high. Mine's about 194 and that could be a little high. Genoway's rule of thumb is approaching 190 and I think that's probably the best advice I was ever given for an easily tuneable all around performer.

As for the wiggle down low I'm not sure if it's the pipe/cam causing overscavenging or the tune but it seems excessive. A lot of that could be eliminated moving the torque band lower if you can afford the dyno time.
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