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Old 08-11-2008, 08:43 PM
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Sounds like trouble was gonna happen no matter what. If I'm at a rally and I think the crowd is too rough, I leave. I have nothing to prove to anyone.
Smart. I do the same thing.... It ain't worth it.
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I've been to Sturgis 4 times. Bragged about how friendly it is. Nevr stayed to 1am.

I don't know who is right in this, all I know at 1am, in bar, there is alot red paint.

speaking from my bowels, I can HA, giving them crap, probably to much, and I can see a drunken cop, or any cop, escallating the matter.

Cops become cops, because they want to do good, or becuase they got a power trip. What other reason is there? I respect what they do, but I also don't trust them 100%.
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Old 08-11-2008, 11:10 PM
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What will be interesting is if there is any payback in the works. Cop or not, I don't think I want the HAs seriously pi$$ed off at me.
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See, I'm thinking that those cops couldn't be stupid enough to pick a fight with some angels. But, then again, off duty Seattle cops probably aren't allowed to CC in a bar. That could be a felony offense. That could be the end of a career or two. That ain't too bright.
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See, I'm thinking that those cops couldn't be stupid enough to pick a fight with some angels. But, then again, off duty Seattle cops probably aren't allowed to CC in a bar. That could be a felony offense. That could be the end of a career or two. That ain't too bright.
Ever since 9-11, ALL police across the country are now allowed to carry 24/7 across state lines, in any and all locations. Notable exceptions are casino's in Nevada and Atlantic City.
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Old 08-11-2008, 11:42 PM
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Ever since 9-11, ALL police across the country are now allowed to carry 24/7 across state lines, in any and all locations. Notable exceptions are casino's in Nevada and Atlantic City.
You can also note Richard Daley's Chicago.
Not even cops from within his own state.
It's against the law, of course, but he's above it.
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I knew they could carry across state lines, but I wasn't aware that made them exempt from all cary statutes. Common sense aside, are they really allowed to carry while under the influence?
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See, I'm thinking that those cops couldn't be stupid enough to pick a fight with some angels. .
Will someone full a booze, and they can feel 10' tall without a gun, now add a CC

Still we don't know the facts. Maybe it did escalate to the point the guy had no choice.
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I knew they could carry across state lines, but I wasn't aware that made them exempt from all cary statutes. Common sense aside, are they really allowed to carry while under the influence?
Not sure how the statute reads, but there's always the internet for the truly curious.
Here in IN, I can carry dead drunk.
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Some states have laws about possesion of a firearm while intoxicated. MI does.
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I personally can think of no place where I am more likely to need a firearm than in a bar at 1:00 a.m.

You could be right, but I have found that it is better not to be there in the first place.

Cops drink in cop bars for this reason, they take care of their own. If one gets out of line, they all will take him to get sober.
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Well if you go back and read and believe the facts provided it says he was blind sided and beaten which put him at risk for possible loosing his weapon and therefore it couldve become a deadly force situation...
then again, most departments have policy's prohibiting off duty carry in establishments selling liquor which could be overlooked if the shooter wanst intoxicated...
if he was he could be screwed whether he was right or wrong
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You don't know wether the HAMC were beign jerks or if the Iron Pigs, which are cops, were on a power trip. I wouldn't rule out anything. But I also wouldn't be surprised that a cop at 1am was drunk with a firearm, and we know how that goes.
I agree.

Considerably likely the iron pigs were on a power trip and the HA decided they "had to" stand up for their colors. I've seen that a lot more often (cops on power trips) then any "gang" causing trouble anywhere.
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