Vader's going under the tin snips......again

[SafetyMan]

Originally Posted by '05Train

Vader's going under the knife

Under the knife, or under the tin snips, like last time?

[BigSwede]

Originally Posted by SafetyMan

Under the knife, or under the tin snips, like last time?

and not a day too soon!

[vafatboy]

Originally Posted by '05Train

OK, can someone educate me on 3.37 gearing? I'm looking at Harley part # 40269-85A for $177, and then J&P part # 600-382 for $98 for the 24-tooth compensator sprocket. Same thing?

I just can't believe this is $500 worth of stuff for the change.

I recall ppl suggesting a new chain be used as well. New clutch hub bearing too. I have access to a press and can install the bearing for young.

[Uesque]

Originally Posted by '05Train

Not with the front end I have. Storz makes a really nice inverted setup that allows a right-side rotor. I can't afford the $3000 entry fee though. The single Brembo will help though. I really have become conscious of how early I have to start chopping off speed when the road starts twisting.

Don't go too crazy, that's the only way I was able to keep up.

[Bone Stockman]

Originally Posted by vafatboy

I recall ppl suggesting a new chain be used as well. New clutch hub bearing too. I have access to a press and can install the bearing for young.

I believe that the Mothership is now including the bearing and circlip with the basket (which might explain the $300 price now). But I'll take you up on that if I need to.

Originally Posted by Uesque

Don't go too crazy, that's the only way I was able to keep up.

I know....I can't allow myself to be kept up with by an obsolete machine.

[DAK47]

I went with the 30T belt pulley, 6.4% increase / 200rpm at 60mph, should give a little extra oomph... I've never had a poor experience with Andrews stuff yet, all the way from my Shovel to now..

Dirk


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BIG TWIN TRANSMISSION BELT PULLEYS (1985 - UP)
Sprocket Tooth Counts & Ratios 1994-2006
(36 T clutch-25 T engine sprocket)
TRANS. REAR WHEEL OVERALL
29 70 3.48
30 70 3.36
31 70 3.25
32 (Stock) 70 3.15
33 70 3.05
34 70 2.96
29 65 (’95 softail) 3.23
30 65 (’95 softail) 3.12
31 65 (’95 softail) 3.02
32 (Stock) 65 (’95 softail) 2.93
33 65 (’95 softail) 2.83
34 65 (’95 softail) 2.75
Sprocket Tooth Counts & Ratios 1985-1993
(37 T clutch-24 T engine sprocket)
TRANS. REAR WHEEL OVERALL
29 70 3.72
30 70 3.60
31 70 3.48
32 (Stock) 70 3.37
33 70 3.27
34 70 3.17
29 61 (’93 softail) 3.24
30 61 (’93 softail) 3.13
31 61 (’93 softail) 3.03
32 (Stock) 61 (’93 softail) 2.94
33 61 (’93 softail) 2.85
34 61 (’93 softail) 2.76
A new pulley with more or less teeth than stock requires moving the rear axle forward (34T sprocket) or backwards (30T or 29T).
.Rear axle position adjustment for each tooth change on transmission sprocket = + / - .125 inches (3.2mm)
.Rear axle position adjustment for each tooth change in belt length = + / - .280 inches (7.1 mm)
If there is not enough axle adjustment at the rear frame for the new sprocket, use a belt with more or less teeth than stock.
BELT DRIVE SPROCKETS - INSTALLATION NOTES
POWER PULLEYS:
30 Tooth..............................6.4% More RPM
(200 RPM increase @ 60 MPH - hi gear)
Part #290306 (All ’07 - UP & ’06 Dyna)
Part #290304 (’94-’06) except ’06 Dyna
Part #290300 (’85-’93)
29 Tooth................................ 9% More RPM
Part #290294 (’94-’06) except ’06 Dyna
Part #290290 (’85-’93)
OVERDRIVE PULLEYS:
NOTE: 34 Teeth; NOT for ’07-UP baggers!
34 Tooth. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 6.4% Less RPM
(187 RPM drop @ 60 MPH - hi gear)
Part #290346 (’06 Dyna)
Part #290344 (’94-’06)
Part #290340 (’85-’93)
33 Tooth. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3% Less RPM
Part #290334 (’94-’06) except ’06 Dyna
Part #290330 (’85-’93)
POWER PULLEYS:
31 Tooth. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3% More RPM
Part #290316 (’07 - UP & ’06 Dyna)
Part #290314 (’94 -’06) except ’06 Dyna
Part #290310 (’85-'93)
New for 2012
32 Tooth. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Stock Replacement
Part #290326 (’07 - UP & ’06 Dyna)
Part #290324 (’94-’06) except ’06 Dyna
Part #290320 (’85-’93)
Andrews sprocket pulleys match 1994 style design. This arrangement
has the advantage of 50% longer internal spline length
compared to the early design. 1994 style pulleys will fit both early
(1985-1993) and late transmission shafts. Overall Belt drive ratio
changes of 3%, 6% or 9% are very noticeable to a rider! All ’85-
’93 pulley kits have new style spacer, lock ring, retainer bolts
and seals included as part of the kit. Pulley kits for ’94-up
must use original stock seal and lock ring.
Pulleys: 2007 - UP Baggers
Final Drive Ratio (’07 & ’08) = 2.79 with stk 32 T pulley
Final Drive Ratio (’07 & ’08) = 2.97 with AP 30 T pulley
Final Drive Ratio (’09 & UP) = 2.87 with stk HD 32T pulley
Final Drive Ratio (’09 & UP) = 2.97 with AP 31T pulley (OK w/stock belt)
Higher final drive gear ratios mean more power!
New pulleys need belt lengths checked at time of installation
Pulleys - ’85-2006 (5 speed trans)
Speedometer calibration modules are available
from Dakota Digital for correcting speedometer for
pulleys with different numbers of teeth than stock.
Part number is: SIM-1
www.dakotadigital.com
Pulleys are available to fit EV80 and Twin Cam transmissions.
Pulleys have 29, 30, 31, 32, 33 & 34 teeth for 5 speeds and 30, 31
32 or 34 teeth for stock H/D 6 speed transmissions.
All 2007 - UP Twin cams and ’06 Dynas MUST use ’07 type pulleys.
Pulleys made for earlier 5 speed transmissions will not fit new H/D 6
speeds!
Pulleys - All six speeds (30T, 31T, 32T & 34T)
New in 2010:
31 tooth pulley on ’09 - UP bagger
changes the final drive
ratio from 2.87 to 2.97

[knuckleheader-]

I thought Vader had become an orphan. Hope you ride it enough to be worth it.

[Bone Stockman]

Great balls I'd forgotten how expensive Harley parts are.

For anyone considering the front Brembo swap, here's what I've discovered....Brembos aren't compatible with DOT 5 fluid, so you've gotta run DOT 4. DOT 4 and DOT 5 don't play well together, and the big recommendation is to change everything in order to avoid contamination.

Part #s for the conversion are....

43027-08 for the caliper
44405-07 for the floating rotor (black, of course)
45013-96D for the 11/16" bore master cylinder from an FXDX

I'll have to call Magnum Shielding for a new line, and I'll need a set of pads. So with all new parts, this is around a $500 job. Holy crap.

[y2kflhr]

she stops just fine....its the people behind you (me) you gotta worry about

[BigSwede]

Originally Posted by '05Train

Great balls I'd forgotten how expensive Harley parts are.

For anyone considering the front Brembo swap, here's what I've discovered....Brembos aren't compatible with DOT 5 fluid, so you've gotta run DOT 4. DOT 4 and DOT 5 don't play well together, and the big recommendation is to change everything in order to avoid contamination.

Part #s for the conversion are....

43027-08 for the caliper
44405-07 for the floating rotor (black, of course)
45013-96D for the 11/16" bore master cylinder from an FXDX

I'll have to call Magnum Shielding for a new line, and I'll need a set of pads. So with all new parts, this is around a $500 job. Holy crap.

You can source good replacements on eBay for less than that. I paid $125 for a pair of calipers and mastercylinder. If you want new, you'll spend new prices

[squish]

Russ has a tendency to hemorrhage money ya know....

[Bone Stockman]

Nah, I'm trying to do this on the cheap. I'm wary of used brake parts though.

[BigSwede]

Originally Posted by '05Train

Nah, I'm trying to do this on the cheap. I'm wary of used brake parts though.

Good thing about the late model ones is that they are likely just pulled to replace with their chrome equivalent. If you find someone that doesn't realize the value or doesn't set a reserve (both apply to my purchase) you win!

[Bone Stockman]

Originally Posted by BigSwede

Good thing about the late model ones is that they are likely just pulled to replace with their chrome equivalent. If you find someone that doesn't realize the value or doesn't set a reserve (both apply to my purchase) you win!

Chrome? Who'd do that to a bike?

[Slick]

Originally Posted by '05Train

Chrome? Who'd do that to a bike?

Chrome happens to be my favorite color (colour to the Canukians).