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Old 05-07-2013, 10:19 PM
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First find that exhaust leak or whatever it is. Perhaps a gasket (as I hate to say seal) is causing too much air intake.
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The FrankenBagger has been neglected, it's true. The past six months have had other stuff on the front burner it seems.
This year I've made the Snook run and now CloudRiders without really prepping a lot, just basics, but the upcoming Red lodge ride will require me to get with it. Tires and a couple of other things are prime for updates.

37000 on the King.

Tires. The Ingram run was the last 1000 for these. Metz most likely (WW)
Rear brake pads. My Indy ran out of them when I did the fronts last week.
Clutch discs. prolly need a fresh set for grins
Tune. I have to find the cure for the decel popping. Gonna try Mark's idea on this.
Bars. Picked up some heritage bars to replace the Wild1 510
What's it take to add heated grips(?) I'd like to try that.
I might even look into adding cruise No...Not gonna go get an Ultra, so just stop that...I mean it. I think.
Thinking of adding a few other things; watching eBay for these:
Reckless fairing
Hard bags
Trucklight

Always so much to do, it seems :sigh:
I run Heat Demons on my bike, and they're great. Even with the thick hand grips I have (Kuryakyn Iso), they still get pretty warm after a few minutes.
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Cam Thanks for that! Heat Demons are on my list!
The install video shows that it's pretty simple and since I'll be swapping bars, they'll be in there.
Now, if i could find a cruise that was that easy
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First find that exhaust leak or whatever it is. Perhaps a gasket (as I hate to say seal) is causing too much air intake.
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my bet is on sucking air in. If I don't use high temp RTV at joints in the pipe that are just clamped and between pipes and slipons I get decel pop. Not as loud as yours was when I was riding behind you (bout crapped my pants the first time it happened ), but that's still where I'd look first.
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That is on the top of the list to fix.
It's driving me nuts for sure.
I finally got my computer to talk to the tuner last night and downloaded some history.
Unfortunately, it doesn't have a "Fix Decel Pop" button....
So I'll have to figure out the fix.
I'll be checking for air leaks as well. There is only a single slip connection on the LSR pipe; it was installed with Ultra Black as directed by RBR. It may just need a fresh application.
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This is from Mikuni's carb site but may still provide some insight:

"Note:

It is normal for many high performance exhaust systems to moderately backfire or pop when the throttle is closed from mid-to-high rpm. In fact, one should expect a well-tuned high performance engine to "pop" and "crackle" when the throttle is closed at high rpm.

The popping is a result of the air/fuel mixture becoming very lean when the throttle is closed and the engine is rotating well above idle speed. It is also necessary that the exhaust system have rather open mufflers.

Why This (normally) Happens:

1) When the throttle valve is in the idle position, fuel does not flow out of the main system (needle, needle jet, main jet). Fuel is only delivered to the engine by the pilot (idle) system.
2) The combined effect of the closed throttle and elevated engine rpm is to create a fairly strong vacuum in the intake manifold. This vacuum, in turn, causes a high air flow rate through the small gap formed by the throttle valve and carburetor throat.
3) Under these conditions the pilot (idle) system cannot deliver enough fuel to create a normal, combustible air/fuel ratio. The mixture becomes too lean to burn reliably in the combustion chamber. It gets sent into the exhaust system unburned and collects there.
4) When the odd firing of the lean mixture does occur, it is sent, still burning, into the exhaust system where it sometimes ignites the raw mixture that has collected ---- the exhaust then pops or backfires.
5) Completely stock Harleys do not do this until open-end mufflers, such as the popular Screamin' Eagle slip-ons, are installed. The exhaust must be both free-flowing and have an open exit for the popping to occur.


Other possible causes:

Air Leaks:

Any source of fresh air into the exhaust system can create or worsen the conditions that bring about exhaust backfiring. The most common entry point is the junction of the header pipes and mufflers. Even a small air leak can dramatically increase the intensity or likelihood of exhaust system backfiring.

A high temperature silicone sealant, as can be found in many auto parts stores, may be used to seal the pipe/muffler junction.

Lean Carburetion:

While exhaust system popping may be considered normal, it is certainly made worse by an overly lean idle circuit.

Be sure that your carburetor's pilot jet is the correct size and that the idle air mixture screw is correctly adjusted before looking for other causes of popping. The procedure for adjusting the pilot circuit is covered in the Tuning Manual.

Ignition:

If exhaust system popping is very loud, irregular and accompanied by loss of power, then you should suspect that the ignition system is not performing as it should. If, for some reason, the ignition sometimes fires at the wrong time, then exhaust popping can become very energetic (loud). Look for failing high tension leads (plug wires), failing ignition coil(s) and especially switches or connectors as possible causes. "
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More like a gun shot. If it is a lean pop you can verify by giving it throttle just off closed. If it goes away lean pop. That is what mine does just like the Mikuni site says since it is running a Mikuni. Yours goes bang not popity pop. I say rich.
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I picked up a used Heritage handlebar; after looking it over I don't think I'm liking the grip angle. After researching some and talking with Wild1, I have decided to get the 515 bar which is the 10" ape. Now I just have to troll the web for a while to find myself a 'deal'.
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I've got a bid on the heat demons as well as the bars. Now I just need patience.

Have any of you installed the Heat Demons on a Wild1 chubby bar?
I'm certain I'm missing something here. They sell both 1" and 1-1/4" versions. I expect that the difference would be the radius inside the clamp, but on closer examination, it appears that the clamp is on the stepped (1") portion even on the Chubby anyway. Guess I'll have to give 'em a call.
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