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Metzeler tires

I have a new set of Metzeler ME880 tires in the garage. I had them on the bike once, but they felt slippery in the corners. I'm gonna need new skins soon, and was thinking of trying these again. I have since been told that the tire pressures could cause the slippery feeling - what is the recommended tire pressures for these tires on an 09 FLHTC?
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http://www.metzeler.com.au/shop/category/tyre-pressures

Looks like 42 front/50 rear.
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Geez, I always loved my Metzelers, I'm surprised to hear you had issues.
I do know that tire pressures are pretty critical on Metzelers, so maybe that was the problem Dave.
I'll be askin' how this turned out when We see y'all at E.S.
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I LIKE the 880s on the old RK and I used em all over ES quite thoroughly. Dunlops were toothless, Avons were undependable but the 880s were very grippy I thought. The first 100 miles will seem loose... They get better fast and redeem themselves well when pushed.
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I love the 880s on Vader. But you've gotta keep a lot of air in them. They won't wear or ride worth a damn at the factory inflation spec.
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I LIKE the 880s on the old RK and I used em all over ES quite thoroughly. Dunlops were toothless, Avons were undependable but the 880s were very grippy I thought. The first 100 miles will seem loose... They get better fast and redeem themselves well when pushed.
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I love the 880s on Vader. But you've gotta keep a lot of air in them. They won't wear or ride worth a damn at the factory inflation spec.

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Couple of good heat cycles seem to give the rubber a good "set", and Russ is right about the inflation, they like to be hard, and it encourages the sidewalls to WORK, and the tread to heat properly.
I did a fair amount of production racing on the Metzeler Comp K model, and actually found the 880's to have many of the same favorable properties.
I do recall that we found the Comp K's liked to run about 5 to 10 PSI higher than spec, depending on the ambient conditions too.
You should find that from cold, the 880's may climb as much as 3 to 7 PSI depending on the air and road temp, and how much you are workin' them (static load of bike/ passengers/ luggage, how hard you are workin' the twisties and rate of speed, etc.)
I have seen the Comp K's climb up to 10 PSI under race conditions, so on a loaded touring bike, 3 to 7 PSI is not at all surprising.
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The first 50 or so miles is critical. You need to scrub the mold release off the tires. They can be a little squirmy when you first put them on. Especially in the wet. I run 45R and 40F. They work just fine!
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Might want to ship a extra set to ES, they wear out almost as fast as Avon venoms, with or without gangsta white walls.
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Yeah, they used to have recommended pressures on their site for each bike/tire combo. I blame the Explorer lawsuit and the like for that disappearing.
I posted the info here or at the old place sommers, I think. BRB.
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Info is from '06 for my '05 Ultra.

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ME 880 MARATHON
Front 130/90-16 M/C 67H TL ME880 FRONT - 38 PSI - 3.0 INCHES
Rear 140/90B16M/C REINFTL 77H ME880 - 44 PSI - 3.0 INCHES
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Thanks for all the info. Think I'll put 'em on next weekend and see how they work.
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I Can't Recall, was there something about what pressure they said to run and the maximum pressure on the sidewall?
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Here's the metric recommendations for your bike. 2009 Classic?

http://www.metzeler.com/site/us/prod...atalogue.html?

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130/80 B 17 M/C 65H TL - 2.48 BAR

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180/65 B 16 M/C 81H REINF TL - 3.03 BAR
2.48 bar = 35.969359 pounds per square inch

3.03 bar = 43.9464345 pounds per square inch
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