K&N filter or Screamin' Eagle Stage 1?

[Highmiles]

Originally Posted by phreak

I put the pipes & AC on my '06 Dyna... the experimental model phor the O2 sensors, and it ran extremely HOT with no ECM phlash. I still don't have the phlash, but I have a TFI instead.

N00dles Road Glide is an SE edition, probably already has the Stage one mods done.

According to American Iron, they changed the ECM in '08. (They had to change it anyway to accommodate the fly by wire throttle.) They claim that's why there is not a valid stage 1 flash for the '08's. They have had them for every previous year.

[SLOWHOUND]

The Zippers air filter breathes better than the K&n and SE stage 1 and a few bucks either way.

[Yosamite Sam]

Well thanks Red Rider that sounds mighty good of you. I will send you an address in a PM. Let me know about shipping costs.

[Scabbydoo]

Yosamite, don't forget, you will still need the SE back plate assembly.

[squish]

i've got one for a grey motor...

[Sidecar Doug]

Originally Posted by phreak

I put the pipes & AC on my '06 Dyna... the experimental model phor the O2 sensors, and it ran extremely HOT with no ECM phlash. I still don't have the phlash, but I have a TFI instead.

N00dles Road Glide is an SE edition, probably already has the Stage one mods done.

I got an '06 Streetbob with a 2 into 1 pipe, and stage 1 set up. Remaped it with the Race tuner, and ran in on a Dyno to fine tune it. Then I changed the SE air filter to K&N, and got close to another 10HP out of it. The bike runs alot better now too.

[HarleyWood]

The HD 1508 is a direct K&N replacement for the stock '08.

K&N has a direct buy price of around 73 bucks, but you can order them through Jenni or some of the others (M&M, Zanotti, MyOilShop)..for about $62 bucks.

When you call them reference Drag Specialities part # 1011-1289

I added mine to my oil order to save shipping, they said it would take a couple of weeks to get in in.

I don't think you gain much other than having a better filter, since it still uses the stock airbox and back plate

[Berserker]

Originally Posted by Sidecar Doug

I got an '06 Streetbob with a 2 into 1 pipe, and stage 1 set up. Remaped it with the Race tuner, and ran in on a Dyno to fine tune it. Then I changed the SE air filter to K&N, and got close to another 10HP out of it. The bike runs alot better now too.

I don't know how to explain, changing one high flow air filter for another, is going to add 10hp.

[phreak]

Originally Posted by Highmiles

According to American Iron, they changed the ECM in '08. (They had to change it anyway to accommodate the fly by wire throttle.) They claim that's why there is not a valid stage 1 flash for the '08's. They have had them for every previous year.

Different O2 sensors also? Or the ECM just handles the info it get's back phrom them different?

Originally Posted by Sidecar Doug

I got an '06 Streetbob with a 2 into 1 pipe, and stage 1 set up. Remaped it with the Race tuner, and ran in on a Dyno to fine tune it. Then I changed the SE air filter to K&N, and got close to another 10HP out of it. The bike runs alot better now too.

Same bike, same philter. I greatly prefer the K&N to the SE.

My Road King SE filter has nearly 30K miles on it. Still good. I use K&N cleaner and water on it when it's dirty.

[SafetyMan]

Originally Posted by Berserker

I don't know how to explain, changing one high flow air filter for another, is going to add 10hp.

One "so called high flow" air filter is a Harley brand Screamin Eagle... the other is a true high flow filter.




Aren't you the one always pointing out MOCO's shortcomings and screwings of the general public?

Why would they use actual quality, when the sheeple will flock to it because it reads Screamin' Eagle??

[KICKER]

Originally Posted by Berserker

I don't know how to explain, changing one high flow air filter for another, is going to add 10hp.

That number does seem a little high.

[Berserker]

Speaking from my bowels, with no real expereicne, I would attribute the 10hp gain, to either the dyno or some else changed with it.

Not saying impossible. But I doubt you would see 10hp if you took the air cleaner off and ran the dyno. But I am just guessing

[Scabbydoo]

Originally Posted by GrayRider

My Road King SE filter has nearly 30K miles on it. Still good. I use K&N cleaner and water on it when it's dirty.

You can do that with the old SE filter as it was a K&N. The new SE filter is a glorified paper filter and can not be washed.

[Berserker]

The filter I bought spring of 04 was K&N. 46k or so on it.