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09-07-2007, 04:14 PM
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Engine light coming on... Checking Engine Codes
Noticed something odd...
I turn on the ignition, hit the run button... engine light comes on... then goes off as normal... then it comes back on. I never hit the start switch... What do you think...? Adding this to the first post to facilitate those looking for engine code procedure: (Also attached a printable PDF) From Woody218: Quote:
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09-07-2007, 04:16 PM
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Try having Mary or somebody else (actually anybody else) touch the buttons.
just sayin...
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09-07-2007, 04:17 PM
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Is your battery charged?
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09-07-2007, 04:17 PM
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She is busy putting on the ghillie suit and camo make up for tonight...
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09-07-2007, 04:18 PM
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09-07-2007, 04:18 PM
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09-07-2007, 04:20 PM
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09-07-2007, 04:23 PM
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Bad connection at the ECM or injectors, or it could just be that famous 8-Ball luck.
 just sayin' Joe
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09-07-2007, 05:13 PM
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My gun just came in so I have to go get the paperwork started... get it a look see... then stop and get some ammo and cleaning stuff...
While I'm gone, I'll put it on the tender and try again when I get back... Thanks.
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09-07-2007, 06:31 PM
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Sorry, you have a fault code. Could be for any number of reasons. Need to read the fault code. Do not ask me how, see the manual.
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09-07-2007, 07:19 PM
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Probably some problem with all the CA emmisions equipment. 
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09-07-2007, 07:49 PM
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8-ball...I think that means that you have a "historic" error stored in the ECM. The error that happened is not happening now, or the engine light would stay on. I think on 2004 and later bikes there is a sequence of buttons to press in a certain order to display the error code in the odometer LCD display. My 2003 requires a SERT or Twin Scan 88. If the error does not reoccur, then the engine light will stop coming back on that second time after you start the bike 50 times, even if you do nothing else. All this is at least how I understand it. I've seen the proceedure to display the error on 2004 and later bike documented over at the VTF, not sure if it's here or not. I'll bet it's in the Electrical Service manual if you can't find it in the Service manual. Good luck.
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09-07-2007, 08:36 PM
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The IM (instrument module) is capable of displaying DTC's (diagnostic trouble codes).
Speedometer Self Diagnostics: The speedometer is capable of displaying and clearing speedometer, tachometer, TSM/TSSM and ICM/ECM Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTC). 1- Turn Ignition switch to OFF & Run/Stop switch is to Run. 2- Push odometer reset button in & hold. 3- Turn ignition switch to Ignition and release odometer reset button. Background lighting sould illuminate, speedometer needle should sweep its full range and indicator lamps (battery, security, low fuel, check engine and cruise) should illuminate. The word “diag” should then appear. 4 - Push the odometer reset button once and you will see the selection menu "PSSPt" with the first P flashing. 5 - Each letter represents an area of the diagnostics module. The module that is flashing is the one you are going to check. To move from one letter (module) to the next, you push the odometer reset button one time. (from P to S to SP to t and back to P, etc.) P = ECM/ICM (Electronic Control Module [EFI] / Ignition Control Module [Carbureted]) S = TSM/TSSM (Turn Signal/ Turn Signal Security Module) SP = speedometer T = tachometer 6 - To get the DTC within an area of diagnostics, push and hold the odometer reset button in for 5 seconds and release. If there are any DTC’s the code will be displayed or the word “none” will appear if there are no DTC’s. Push the odometer reset button again to view additional codes if they exist. 7 - Record the codes. 8 - If DTC’s are not to be cleared, Press and release the odometer reset button. Part number of module will be displayed. NOTE: To determine if a code is current or historic, clear the displayed code by pushing in and holding the odometer reset button ( longer than 5 seconds) until 'clear' comes up. Release the odometer reset button. Turn OFF the ignition switch. Run your bike and shut it down then recheck the DTC’s again by repeating steps 1 to 9. If the code is current it will reappear. 9 – Press and release the odometer reset button to continue to the next module. 10 – Turn Ignition switch to OFF. -------------------------- DTC FAULT CONDITION MODULE B0563 Battery Voltage High TSM/TSSM B1004 Fuel Level Sending Unit Low Instruments B1005 Fuel Level Sending Unit High/Open Instruments B1006 Accessory Line Overvoltage Instruments B1007 Ignition Line Overvoltage Instruments B1008 Reset Switch Closed Instruments B1131 Alarm Output Low TSM/TSSM B1132 Alarm Output High TSM/TSSM B1134 Starter Output High TSM/TSSM B1135 Accelerometer Fault TSM/TSSM B1151 Sidecar BAS Low TSM/TSSM B1152 Sidecar BAS High TSM/TSSM B1153 Sidecar BAS Out of Range TSM/TSSM P0106 MAP Sensor Rate of Range Error Carb P0107 Map Sensor Failed Open/Low Carb P0107 Map Sensor Open/Low EFI P0108 Map Sensor Failed High Carb P0108 Map Sensor High EFI P0112 IAT Sensor Voltage Low EFI P0113 IAT Sensor Voltage Open/High EFI P0117 ET Sensor Voltage Low EFI P0118 ET Sensor Voltage Open/High EFI P0122 TP Sensor Open/Low EFI P0123 TP Sensor High EFI P0261 Front Injector Open/Low EFI P0262 Front Injector High EFI P0263 Rear Injector Open/Low EFI P0264 Rear Injector High EFI P0373 CKP Sensor Intermittent Carb P0373 CKP Sensor Intermittent EFI P0374 CKP Sensor Not Detected Carb P0374 CKP Sensor Synch Error EFI P0501 VSS Low Carb P0501 VSS Low EFI P0502 VSS High/Open Carb P0502 VSS High/Open EFI P0505 Loss of Idle Sped Control EFI P0562 Battery Voltage Low Carb P0562 Battery Voltage Low EFI P0563 Battery Voltage High Carb P0563 Battery Voltage High EFI P0602 Calibration Memory Error Carb P0603 EEPROM Failure Carb P0603 ECM EEPROM Error EFI P0604 RAM Failure Carb P0605 Program Memory Error Carb P0605 ECM Flash Error EFI P0607 Converter Error Carb P1001 System Relay Coil Open/Low EFI P1002 System relay Coil High/Shorted EFI P1003 System relay Contacts Open EFI P1004 System Relay Contacts Closed EFI P1009 Incorrect Password Carb P1009 Incorrect Password EFI P1010 Missing Password Carb P1010 Missing Password EFI P1351 Front Ignition Open/Low Carb P1351 Front Ignition Open/Low EFI P1352 Front Ignition Coil High/Shorted Carb P1352 Front Ignition Coil High/Shorted EFI P1353 Front Cylinder No Combustion EFI P1354 Rear Ignition Coil Open/Low Carb P1354 Rear Ignition Coil Open/Low EFI P1355 Rear Ignition Coil High/Shorted Carb P1355 Rear Ignition Coil High/Shorted EFI P1356 Rear Cylinder No Combustion EFI P1357 Intermittent Secondary Front EFI P1358 Intermittent Secondary Rear EFI U1016 Loss of ICM/ECM Serial Data Instruments U1016 Loss of ECM Serial Data, Vehicle Speed, Vehicle Inhibit Motion or Powertrain Security Status TSM/TSSM U1064 Loss of TSM/TSSM Serial Data Carb U1064 Loss of TSM/TSSM Serial Data EFI U1064 Loss of TSM/TSSM Serial Data Instruments U1097 Loss of Speedometer Serial data Carb U1097 Loss of Speedometer Serial data EFI U1097 Loss of Speedometer Serial data TSM/TSSM U1255 Missing Message at Speedometer EFI U1255 Serial Data Error/Missing Message EFI U1255 Serial Data Error/Missing Message Instruments U1255 Serial Data Error/Missing Message TSM/TSSM U1300 Serial Data Low Carb U1300 Serial Data Low EFI U1300 Serial Data Low Instruments U1300 Serial Data Low TSM/TSSM U1301 Serial Data Open/High Carb U1301 Serial Data Open/High EFI U1301 Serial Data Open/High Instruments U1301 Serial Data Open/High TSM/TSSM 2006 models with 02 sensors (Dynas) P0131 Front 02 sensor lean for any length of time P0151 Rear 02 sensor lean for any length of time Above codes can also be set if 02 sensor fails. ----------------------- AFR – Air Fuel Ratio ATS – Air Temperature Sensor BAS – Bank Angle Sensor CCM – Cruise Control Module CKP – Crank Position Sensor. The CKP generates an “AC signal” which is sent to the ECM where it is used to reference engine position (TDC) and speed. Home position established by taking readings off the 22 teeth on the alternator rotor. DTC – Diagnostic Trouble Codes ECM – Electronic Control Module. (The Computer) Computes the spark advance for proper ignition timing and fuel control based on sensor inputs (from CKP, MAP & TP sensors) and controls the low-voltage circuits for the ignition coils and injectors. The dwell time for the ignition coil is also calculated in the microprocessor and is dependent upon battery voltage. The programmed dwell feature gives adequate spark at all speeds. ECT – Engine Coolant Temperature. Sensor also controls the cooling fan relay that provides 12 Vdc to the fans. EFI – Electronic Fuel Injection EFP – Electronic Fuel Pump ET – Engine Temperature sensor FI – Fuel Injectors FPR – Fuel Pressure regulator IAC – Idle Air Control actuator IAT – Intake Air Temperature sensor ISS – Ion Sensing System…detonation detection MAP – manifold Absolute Pressure sensor. The MAP sensor monitors the intake manifold pressure (vacuum) and sends the information to the ECM. The EMC then adjusts the spark and fuel-timing advance curves for optimum performance. TP – Throttle Position Sensor TSM/TSSM (Turn Signal/ Turn Signal Security Module) VE – Volume Efficiency VSS – Vehicle Speed Sensor. Used as an input for idle speed control
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09-07-2007, 08:49 PM
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Thanks for the replies first off...
I came back... the gun is nice by the way... and I am now on my way to cooling off... The battery tender light was green when I got home. I then turned on the ignition and then flipped the run switch. The engine light came on as normal... then went out... then came back on for about 2 more seconds then went out again. I waited for awhile and it didn't come back on again. I noticed too that the battery tender light went to red and it is still red... 20 minutes later... The manual says to check trouble codes but doesn't say how or at least I can't find it. I'm suspecting battery.... how long do these things last... I'm not afraid of riding in a bad neighborhood... Owning a Harley scares me to death...
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