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whatever the reason, it's driven by stock holders, f the customer.
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Sometimes lack of response is indicative of lack of humor in the original post, not lack of understanding.
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It is not the MOCO driving the anti-internet policy forward, it is the dealer network. Harley did what it did because a majority of it's dealers, which is their primary method of distribution, complained about a very small minority of dealers who pursued a business model of high volume versus higher margin. How do they know that? Because of the customers that go into the dealer, look at the price and complain to the dealer "I'm can buy that online from Zanotti's for 20% off". The average HOG member RUB will always frequent the dealer and pay MSRP, so that part of the base is secure. However, the knowledgeable consumers will spend their money wisely, and find the lowest prices for what they want. Unfortunately, for most dealers the knowledgeable consumer is the one more likely to spend gobs of cash. Harley sells great jackets and quality parts (mostly). I love my FXRG jacket, and I don't care where it was made. However, I'm not stupid. If I can buy it for $450 with free shipping and no sales tax rather than pay $650 + 8.25% tax that's just a no brainer. That's $200 my dealer won't get in profit and knows it when I walk in with my nice new jacket I didn't buy from him. Again, my point is it's the dealer crying that is driving the attempted policy change.
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But I also think more than anything that the MoCo is going to start doing internet sales directly, and this policy comes from a desire to sell parts at MSRP without having to compete with Zannotti and Lakeshore. As I said earlier, that's bull$hit, because a direct-sale doesn't have the overhead that a brick-and-mortar store has. This is a bad policy that's going to piss off some dealers and all customers, and will have the net effect of alienating repeat customers.
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I think their approach to this is incredibly short-sighted, and is going to end up hurting them in the long run.
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Back in the early '70's when I was working retail, the last two manufacturors to fix prices were Levi's and Timex. They tried to force all retailers to sell at MSRP to keep the drug stores and discounters on an equal footing. It didn't matter where you bought a Timex-----it was going to be the same price. The discounters, led by a chain I worked for, sucessfully sued to stop the practice. I don't know who will try to take on MOCO, but someone will, and they will win. Just a complaint from some concerned customers to the Fair Trade folks should stop them in their tracks. A dealer maight not be able to sue and win because he will find his franchise in jepordy. I guess we will have to take it into our own hands.
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Or it means only the dullards have had a chance to read it so far.
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I must have missed it while my drool cup was being emptied.....
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Benny Hill
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I've heard firsthand (from Jenni) that Harley is going to end the practice of dealers selling out of their areas. Likewise, their attempt to end the 20% off advertising has been in the works for over a year. I have no idea what the MotherShip's endgame is, only that I know that they're trying to end all discounting on P&A, and there's serious talk of there being online ordering through the H-D website. I have no idea how they'll implement that. I think it's all a terrible idea though.
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It's funny how they let you select any dealer that sells online, even if you are out of their territory. I can select a dealer in New Jersey if I wanted to. Kind of contrary to their stated objective.
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