New TTS Sert Replacement is Imminent...!!! Also: SE Pro Tuner Info...

BigMike's thread on his cam change got me to investigatin'...

Looks like TTS, the creator of the SERT and SERT software is now free to upgrade their software/interface equipment and make it available separate from HD.

I found the following from another forum:

Here is the link to Master tune http://www.mastertune.net/files/calibrations.asp

1/28/2008 6:11 PM



SE Pro Tuner (HD SERT replacement):

TTS is no longer the software supplier. The new supplier for the "Super Tuner" is SPX Kent Moore. The screens look more like the Digital Tech screens since the software is from the same supplier. There are currently no plans for "auto tune" or real time cell tracing, which would have been nice. Dealers will be limited to 4 Super Tuners per month as production on the new tuner ramps up. As the product is tuned the same way the old one is, there should be no problem in getting your bike taken care of while one product is ramped up and the older one is phased out. You will be able to paste and copy older tuning files from SERT to Super Tuner files. The new dongle marrys to the ECM as the old one did. The biggest advantage from my perspective is USB connectivety and the data record option on the new dongle.

And from Steve Cole of TTS:

Well for those of you who do not know me I work at TTS and we designed and manufactured the SERT and several other products for HD. Many updates that we wanted to do were turned down repeatedly by HD so that is why the product did not grow as it should have. That being said we will be releasing our tuning software for the HD bikes to the public in the end of Feb. first part of March. The product works on windows 98 and newer platforms and yes it's windows Vista compatible. It will look and feel like the SERT as it has always been owned by TTS but there are several upgrades being added for the first release. As many of you have figured out having files on the net is no big deal but that was something HD refused when we proposed it 2 years ago. As people send in files we will update our site with them but it's up to you the customers to send them to us for posting. The first release will get some pretty nice changes that I cannot speak about just yet but rest assured it will make tuning your Delphi HD bike much simpler and quicker than anything on the market. One feature I can tell you about is the ability to take a copy of a calibration that is currently on your bike, just plug in and upload the current calibration from the bike and save it to your PC. If at any time you want, you can simply program that file back into the bike as you have a copy of it. As the new product gets closer to release I will post all it's new features. The SERT was and always has been a product of TTS. Just look under "help" and "about" in every copy of the software ever sold. We manufactured both the hardware and software. HD has never owned it. Up until last year there were agreements in place that no longer apply so we are taking the product to the public and it will be marketed as a TTS product once again. If you do some searching you would find we've been manufacture tuning and logging software since the late 80's early 90's. The product will revert back to the original names of Mastertune and DataMaster. Ever wonder why the file ext's were .MTx and DMx? Now you know why. The current product (SERT) can be run with both applications on the screen at once and you can simply "click" from one window to the other as this is a standard feature in windows. We have no involvement in the new tuner that HD will be selling. The maps on our site are a free service that we provide for anyone to download and use. It's a clearing house of maps for our products but it's up to you the public how good it becomes. As stated before I cannot get into everything that will be coming in our first public release but rest assured there are many improvements with many more to follow in future releases. Everything we've wanted to do for over 2 years is in the works but it will not all come out in the first release as it would take to long to complete it all. Any purchaser of our new TTS product will be able to update to the latest software free of charge. This is something we've wanted since we first started selling through HD back in 2002 but again they refused to move forward with much of anything other than to add the next model year for coverage to the product.

[MegaGlide]

Y'all may remember Steve from over across the street.
He's good people.

Interesting thread on the subject from around the corner...

http://hdforums.com/m_2767726/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm

Pay particular attention to, oddly enough, post #43...

http://www.ttspowersystems.com/

Website for TTS...

I don't see any H-D stuff on their web site...

[vafatboy]

Originally Posted by 8-Ball

BigMike's thread on his cam change got me to investigatin'...

Looks like TTS, the creator of the SERT and SERT software is now free to upgrade their software/interface equipment and make it available separate from HD.

I found the following from another forum:

Here is the link to Master tune http://www.mastertune.net/files/calibrations.asp

1/28/2008 6:11 PM



SE Pro Tuner (HD SERT replacement):




And from Steve Cole of TTS:

Skimmer

http://www.doofclenas.com/forums/sho...06&postcount=7

Originally Posted by Woody218

I don't see any H-D stuff on their web site...

Harley,

You can find some HD map files here.

http://www.mastertune.net/files/calibrations.asp

I think they're looking to share map files. (user submitted) much like PC does.

The release of the product under MasterTune was to be late Feb early March. Then it went to late March and is now the first part of next month. I've emailed Steve a couple of times for updates and he has always responded. I hope they keep the same pricing as their GM platforms, if so, it'll be around 220.00 or so.

Thanks, Warren!

[LittleBear]

It is about damn time somebody made the damn thing so the average techno geek could tune their bike.

Sounds like EFI may actual be a user tunable and user friendly system in the future. All you need to do is load the software onto your crackberry, connect the usb port and tune it going down the road, that is if you can text and ride at the same time.

I laugh, but it probably is not far away.

Not sure it they support MAC users Mike.

[Xkvator]

Originally Posted by 8-Ball

Interesting thread on the subject from around the corner...

http://hdforums.com/m_2767726/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm

Pay particular attention to, oddly enough, post #43...

who's Megasquirt...?

Shovelhead Bob is a mechanic at Cerini's...

Originally Posted by LittleBear

It is about damn time somebody made the damn thing so the average techno geek could tune their bike.

Sounds like EFI may actual be a user tunable and user friendly system in the future. All you need to do is load the software onto your crackberry, connect the usb port and tune it going down the road, that is if you can text and ride at the same time.

I laugh, but it probably is not far away.

Not sure it they support MAC users Mike.

I think H-D purposely kept it difficult, that way people would be intimidated to do their own tuning, and instead, would rely on the "expert tuners" at the dealer...

[LittleBear]

Now Harley, that was funny, I don't care who you are.

Standard HD crap.. they do not want us the owners to be able to do anything.. and they do not want to provide us with anything like a simple upgrade....

that is why HD is still in the dark ages as far as technology is concerned..
and also why HD still trys to make us believe that HD is an American made motorcycle.....

[swmnkdinthervr]

Originally Posted by KTWillys

Standard HD crap.. they do not want us the owners to be able to do anything.. and they do not want to provide us with anything like a simple upgrade....

that is why HD is still in the dark ages as far as technology is concerned..
and also why HD still trys to make us believe that HD is an American made motorcycle.....

Funny but I remember a certain recent ruling by the Feds that says technical data that pertains to repair or upkeep of a vehicle must be made available to the public...but yes the MoCo continues to change stuff up so we are forced to both buy from them and take our bikes to them for service...that's why I shop elsewhere and do most of my own worn or have an indy do it...

[route66paul]

Originally Posted by swmnkdinthervr

Funny but I remember a certain recent ruling by the Feds that says technical data that pertains to repair or upkeep of a vehicle must be made available to the public...but yes the MoCo continues to change stuff up so we are forced to both buy from them and take our bikes to them for service...that's why I shop elsewhere and do most of my own worn or have an indy do it...

They hide behind the EPA and say that only the legal repair and upgrade is covered, and that you might want to do something illegal.

If you look at HD's Warranty and it is taken exactly as written if you change anything (away from OEM), even if it is done by the Dealer your warranty is voided...

Now that said when the Dealer does and install of a Big Bore or a cam change.. ect.. you still are covered under your warranty....
What is happening is that the Dealer is covering the warranty and telling HD that it is a covered item if there is a problem. And if you have an item like a Big Bore Cylinder that goes bad then the dealer is covered when the basic HD parts warranty is implemented.

So technically speaking if HD wanted to give you grief then you are poo out of luck..
Learned this the hard way when the HD manager was replaced after some parts were changed in a new takeoff situation... and yes it is in writting...

I only use HD on a completely propriotry item.. and do all of my own work...