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Old 06-23-2012, 06:19 PM
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Automatic Compression Release Installation.

Shoulda Coulda Woulda. Oh well.

I'm going to have to install compression releases.

I stalled her out in a construction zone. Stop and go, one lane, barriers on both sides, and on a uphill, hot engine. I thought the starter was going to rip out of her. Plus the extra load on a hot soak from a gas stop.

I decided to install the MoCo's kit. I want automatic because of the issue I mentioned. Don't want to fiddle with manual releases when folks are honking at me.

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41 When I pull the heads do I also need to remove the cylinders to install new base o rings?

41.1 Can a good dealer service dept handle it or should i find a independent machine shop drill them and perhaps clean/open the stock heads up some?

41.1A Any recommendations and past experience with this would be appreciated.
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Old 06-23-2012, 07:19 PM
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You know how hot it is down here, dj. I do not have compression releases.

I have not had the failures that you have mentioned.
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Mebbe try a higher-torque starter.

I ended up puttin' one in the GTO after having the same problems you describe. Stock starter couldn't handle a heat-soaked, high compression engine, especially one that had the initial timing advanced a few degrees.

The new starter spins that pup over effortlessly now.

Bonus, in your case: you won't have to tear half the motor down to redo the heads.

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Old 06-23-2012, 07:39 PM
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That's an idea. Couldn't hurt to look into one.
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If you're talking about your 2008 it doesn't have base gaskets so you don't have to pull the cylinders.
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If you're talking about your 2008 it doesn't have base gaskets so you don't have to pull the cylinders.
Exactly. It uses o rings at the base. Should be ok?
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Exactly. It uses o rings at the base. Should be ok?
I personally wouldn't change them but you have to make that decision (disclaimer). I would probably go with DAK47's suggestion.
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I personally wouldn't change them but you have to make that decision (disclaimer). I would probably go with DAK47's suggestion.
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Same with my last bike.....1.4kw starter fixed it. Need to out one on the EG too.
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Old 06-24-2012, 11:54 AM
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I'm going with the ACR from the MoCo.

Just need to find a shop to modify the heads.
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The tool from the MoCo to install the ACR's in the center of the head is $950.

The tool from Jim's is to install MCR's next to the spark plugs.

I'm doin' ACR's.
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Old 06-24-2012, 01:30 PM
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Come to think of it, I'm there, so I might as well pull the jugs off and have them sprayed black.

It's looking like the Guru who tuned Orbit's 88 is going to be doing my heads.
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