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Old 10-06-2007, 12:21 PM
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Can anyone explain why since 80% of stopping power is on the front, it is the rear rotor that has the larger screws holding it on? (at least on Fatboy wheels)
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Old 10-06-2007, 12:38 PM
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Don't rightly know, Du..but I'm gonna guess it's got sumptin' to do with inertia.
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I think it has to do with weight transfer. When you hit the brakes, weight shifts forward to the front wheel. The back end gets lighter hence less traction. My .02.
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I think it has to do with weight transfer. When you hit the brakes, weight shifts forward to the front wheel. The back end gets lighter hence less traction. My .02.
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I don't. Why with the load on the front does the rear have bigger bolts?
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I don't. Why with the load on the front does the rear have bigger bolts?
Same number of bolts?
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I've always wondered that too. But what I really like is...eight posts, and no one has a frikin' clue.

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I don't. Why with the load on the front does the rear have bigger bolts?

Because there is more mass. The rear wheel is bigger and heavier, and has the drive sprocket, plus it is the drive wheel, and you are putting the brakes on the motor too. You are asking the rear wheel to overcome torque, besides braking the wheel.
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Because there is more mass. The rear wheel is bigger and heavier, and has the drive sproket, plus it is the drive wheel, and you are putting the brakes on the motor too. You are asking the rear wheel to overcome torque, besides braking the wheel.
Yeah,,, what Highmiles said sounds plausible

The front end would look like something made in Eastern Europe if they put big bolts on it. Looks over function is the intended purpose of smaller parts.
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I measured the bolts. length is the same (not measured), front is 5/16, rear is 3/8. 5 bolts each wheel.
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Are the rotor and pulley bolts the same? If they are, it could be a bow to assy line efficiency and nothing more. I am sure the ones up front are engineered to handle their predicted load--I doubt even HD could weather that lawsuit.

Never looked at the holes close either; are they drilled straight through the hub from rotor to pulley? Again, if they are, and the pulley needs the larger bolt, it does not make manufacturing sense to drill 2 different sized holes.

All speculation, since I'm too lazy to get up and walk out to the garage and look.
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